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  • Writer Notes: The Wicked + the Divine 32

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    Spoilers, obv.

    While I’ve done this in my Tumblr asks, I forget if I’ve put this in the actual notes or not. I would presume I haven’t, because if I’d put the following caveat in the Writer’s Notes and I’m still being asked when the Writer Notes are coming when they’re later than usual by people who presumably read the Writer Notes it would be more than a little rude.

    (I write the following, and then bounce back here to put a caveat on my caveat. Don’t worry if you’ve done the following. It’s not the end of the world, it’s really only a minor annoyance in the larger scale of things, and you didn’t know.)

    I’ve done Writer Notes for every single issue of WicDiv. That’s 34 (with the Specials), including this one. They appear before the next issue drops. I’ve gone as late as the day before the issue is released. I don’t believe I’ve ever gone any later. That’s how it’s always happened.

    “Before the next issue.” That is when to expect my Writer Notes. It is not “late” until the next issue drops.

    I write them as soon as I have time. If I haven’t done it earlier in the month, you may safely assume that I’ve got other commitments that have to be prioritised above writing something which is, in a very real way, not part of my job.

    If you’re worried whether you’ve missed them, the Writer Notes are always tagged on my tumblr. You can click this link and see if they’re there or not. There is no need to ask me.

    I do not appreciate anyone asking where they are and when I’m going to do it. Please, don’t do it. It stresses me out, both in the frustration at the entitlement in believing I should be writing it instead of many of the other things I should be doing, and in the simultaneous and entirely contradictory response of I SHOULD BE DOING THEM WHY THE HELL AM I NOT DOING THEM I AM LETTING EVERYONE DOWN!!!!

    There is only so much a creative can give.

    Er… and that appears to have segued into this issue’s theme, hasn’t it?

    Jamie/Matt’s Cover

    We finally reach full bleed on the Imperial Phase covers. By this point, I suspect pretty much everyone has seen what we’re doing with the covers, and the implicit question of “how can you follow something that’s doing this to full bleed”.

    This is one of my favourite WicDiv covers. Jamie and Matt have excelled themselves here. The nonchalance of Dionysus, a return of the Acid House badge and so on. It’s completely different to all the other gods – as is the nature of Dio – but is also the most visually magnificent. I love this.

    Noelle Stephenson

    Is a force of nature, and doesn’t really need me hailing her here. Suffice to say, BUY NIMONA IF YOU HAVEN’T. She jumped at Baal/Minerva, and we just sat and let her do her thing. Clearly with this issue’s content it rubs up unusually.


    Walking Dead Cover

    Homaging their issue 150 cover. We did it with 32, which makes it kinda funny. Persephone in her issue 22 costume.


    IFC

    With the double-length of Imperial Phase, we’re very much reaching the recap page’s breaking point in terms of working out what information to include. I smile that I managed to fit “He is such a shit” in there though.

    Page 1

    Return to the three panel of the start of last time. Immobility remains the point. I had a slightly more writer-y line for Sakhmet in the second panel, but I generally find it’s best to strip her back to Just The Facts. There’s no need to fence with Sakhmet.

    Jamie’s addition of a bloody-handed yawn is a perfect way to add a secondary reveal to the scene.

    Reading people’s commentary. I find it interesting that people seem to have Persephone’s expression in the last panel to be bored. It reads pretty clearly as a wince to me. It’s a very small response – which is, of course, the point – but it’s definitely not ambivalent. One of the things in comics is how much for characters to verbalise, and how much you can just leave to the art. This is not a thing which has any one solution.

    Pages 2-4

    There’s a craft thing here of note – we only explicitly introduce the idea that there is a sexual consent issue at this point in the Woden scene. We don’t think leaving that sort of threat across a month is either ethical or useful. In a serialised narrative, we try to weigh these things up.

    (It’s still relatively quiet. There’s twelve Valkyries. The thirteenth Asian girl is Cassandra.)

    The page transition of Dionysus kicking in is the sort of thing I love as a storyteller. Repeats with a tiny difference.

    The dialogue was moved a little after drawing, so as to leave the final panel on page 3 silent. Jamie’s expression was perfect and didn’t need disruption – more so when Matt pops the reds.

    The glo-stick nunchaku first appeared in Rising Action, and make a return here. They were inspired by Christian Ward and Catherine Rooney’s wedding, when they distributed a bunch of glo-sticks during the 90s rave set the DJ dropped. I was spinning them around, and it got me thinking.

    Page 4 is obviously the key image, capturing Dio’s hamartia in the same way as Amaterasu’s final panel in 31 captures her. I get upset to even think of this panel. Futile acts of bravery when all hope is lost is something which almost always makes me cry.

    Anyway – just wonderful. Jamie and Matt nail it. The oppressiveness of the mass of green, the crowd against Dio, the soar of his body. Perfect. Nice work.

    Page 5

    The Red Shoes being the Hans Christian Andersen story about a girl who gets a pair of ballet shoes and can’t stop dancing. It doesn’t end well for her either.

    It’s been used all over culture – Kate Bush is an obvious one, but I tend to think of the 1948 movie.

    Pages 6-7

    We basically keep the rhythm of the last issue going. As in, hard cuts between multiple scenes when the drama is highest. I’ll be interested to see how this works in the trade – page 1’s refocusing of the action here is the stepping stone back to this location, but it’s quite the jump.

    Anyway – Sakhmet and Persephone’s final conversation. I needed something like this.

    Standard-y me structure of a two-page scene with the first row of the first page merged as is the last row of the second page.

    Lots of great expression work here, especially in how tight Jamie is choosing to cut things. It’s not just as simple as a slow zoom to the character’s features, but there is a gradual increase. I like how Sakhmet starts in a neutral position… and then when she laughs at the first answer, she gets a little further away… and when she gets the response to the second question, she’s very close. That also means we also get a great pull away.

    Expressions again. Sakhmet’s three close-ups are my everything, in how much she’s saying – the downcast eyes in the third! Especially compared to the deadness of Persephone.

    “I think we only get to hurt ourselves and maybe people who want to be hurt” is just :(

    Pages 8-11

    Reprising of issue 8, which was Dio at his most iconic. These four pages “count” as two pages in terms of page budget, in that only 4 panels are drawn on each page. That we spread it out over a larger space means it’s much more emotionally impactful.

    My brain is failing, but I believe Dio and Woden are the only two characters other than Laura who’ve ever had internal dialogue captions. That strikes me as interesting.

    Cutting the dialogue short enough to make it vaguely keep to the beat was obviously important. It ticks along, relentlessly.

    Matt’s colouring here is, like Dio’s first one, a story in and of itself – the fading colour as Dio is dragged down in the first page, the glitch on page 10, the third panel of page 11.

    The “One more time” came to me as writing it, and I was genuinely horrified at myself. I can make any cultural allusion depressing. It’s a gift.While at this year’s Thought Bubble dancefloor, this issue was at the printers. Various friends had read it, and were there. When I dropped ‘One More Time’, I glanced at them, and thought about the unique awfulness of WicDiv, in that they knew and no one else did.

    Pages 12-13

    I wish I had a page or two more in the budget here. There’s a couple of beats I wish I’d been able to linger on.

    The drop of Dio in the first panel brought to mind the fall of 455 Lucifer.

    Woden’s line is harsh as fuck here, but also not entirely wrong. As we see, Cass was unaffected by Woden’s power. He didn’t need to do anything.

    The last panel on page 12 originally had much more dialogue, and it was bullshit. I moved that to the next panel, and keep it sharper. WicDiv isn’t a comic where people can shout speeches as they do stuff.

    I’M A FUCKING CRITIC is much better anyway. Jamie and Matt did great stuff with the multiple levels.

    “One More” makes me feel bitter too. Brunhilde’s excitement is also telling. More anon on this, I suspect.

    More exposition than I’d like in the last panel with Cass, but I suspect we lose you if you don’t know why she’s phoning Persephone.

    Page 14

    Yes, Persephone hasn’t changed her ringtone.

    We don’t have space to go far into the fight here, but we have to give the two big beats. Baal’s burst of power, and the specifics of the terrible speed of Sakhmet. The colour choices are what scream to me here. Each of those two central panels are so much about the individual god who is dominating them. There’s just such direct choices here.

    We start on the phone, and end on Minerva’s owl, to try and get a transition to…

    Page 15

    …Minerva. Clearly for where the story goes, we have to see Minerva in the nearby area. We wanted to show the emotional journey towards going there – that’s a great conflicted last panel by Jamie. We discussed what method to use in terms of communication – specifically, we needed Minerva to have ‘READ’ notes on her phone so she knows Morrigan has seen the messages and is ignoring them. Which sets up Minerva to make her decision.

    After the colours of the previous page, the low light of this one is also really striking.

    Pages 16-17

    The fight scenes in the Underground were all written Marvel Method, with more ideas than would fit in the space. As such, it was a question of choosing where to edit, both in terms of Jamie’s choices on the page and my choices at lettering. There was certainly more possible lettering in the script… but, as I say above, I don’t like fight scenes to talk too much. When this is all happening as quickly as it is, it seems to undercut it.

    Boiling the exchange to the “Predator or Prey” call back seemed to be the right call to make. Boil it down.

    (The other options were a reprise of Persephone’s “We only get to hurt ourselves and people who want to be hurt” in the last two panels, which I felt would be too much. I’d hope it would be subtextual in it anyway.)

    Page 18

    We leaned into implication here – choosing the moments. The slump of the hands in the second panel is the key one for me. That’s just horrible, as is Persephone’s distress in the third one.

    Pages 19-21

    Yeah, this scene is hard, with the characters’ frustrations and anger at themselves crossing back and forth. It’s telling that we go to eight panel grid structure for the first two pages, which is my standard one for this kind of more emotionally grounded scene.

    Worth noting the other Norns aren’t there. I suspect Cass hasn’t been exactly gentle with them either. Still – Cass echoes a significant proportion of the readership regarding Persephone, I suspect.

    Explicitly closing off the “No Person” line from back in Imperial Phase.

    Eventually Persephone reaches a point and pushes back. For both of them, it’s not the lies that hurt. It’s the truths. And… yeah, that argument is totally not over.

    I kind of wish I had the machine go BLEEP! Rather than BEEP!

    Pages 22-24

    Yes, it is very much our beeping device on the mantelpiece.

    Odd hitting the last page, in that it’s one of the end-of-episode beats I’ve known seemingly forever. It is a particularly frustrating one, clearly.

    We did have a bunch of chat over exactly what should that final line be. It was as mild as “Oh my” at one point, but I like the last one.

    Beep Test being a fitness thing.

    And that’s it. A few more weeks and issue 33, the end of Imperial Phase and moving onto Year Four of the book. Just re-reading all of WicDiv so far in preparation for scripting of that year, and it’s a strange thing to look at how far we’ve come. If you have never done a WicDiv re-read, I suspect this is a perfect time to do one.

    Thanks for reading.

    • November 3, 2017 (10:24 pm)
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    23. justinthesun said: Thank you for this! I appreciate the work you put in. Dio was one of my favorites and was curious how it affected you when writing it. I really think it’s phenomenal that you even do this!
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    43. kierongillen said: Just to stress, it’s not a huge deal - it’s just that it’s such an unnecessary one. That people is excited to read the notes is clearly a good thing. But still.
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